Mar 16 2007
The Starbucks Pickup
Starbucks is one of my favorite places for casual and relaxing pickup, and it’s hard to go too far wrong. Here are the reasons:
- The girls who go to Starbucks probably don’t smoke.
- They don’t mind paying a few bucks for a coffee. This means they’reeither fairly well off (no gold-diggers, thanks), or at least’semi-cultured’
- The chicks are of generally higher calibre.
- They are waiting to be approached, with time on their hands.
- Many girls come to Starbucks to study English. Just. Too. Easy.
Iwant to give some practical guidance on how to talk to chicks inStarbucks. I’ve gotten some great successes in Starbucks. At the veryleast I get some numbers and great friends and conversation. I want toshare this with all of you guys. However if you use these techniquesand you see me in Starbucks, I get first dibs. Or at the very least,come and wing me. 
Firstly, get your logistics down. Just thesame as nightgame. Stake out a good seat. I recommend sitting smackbang in the middle of a crowded Starbucks. Bring a book, or a laptop.Drink your coffee. As Homer Simpson might say, "Now we play the waitinggame".
I will stop to talk about the differences of mindsetshere. There is active game, which much of this blog focuses on - whereyou walk over, approach, make a comment, start the set, etc. Of course,I’ve done this in Starbucks before. I’ve walked over and been sobrazen, that in a story that is now embarrassingly infamous in theTokyo pickup scene, I was cockblocked by a Starbucks staff member in 3seconds flat. No exaggeration (I made up for this by # closing a hot 18year old in front of him 5 minutes later).
Then there is theslightly more passive game, which falls under this Starbucks tutorial.Society is very big on the idea of "Things just happening". Especiallyfor girls. Almost all love stories talk about the man and the woman,who are time and time again thrown together, against their will orexpectation, until they finally realize their love for each other andget down to business. We can take advantage of this in Starbucks.You’re not there to talk to girls - they just happened to sit down nextto you because it’s crowded, and this was the only seat. And you justhappened to notice something about them. Very romantic and exciting.Also, no Starbucks "protectors of womens faith and innocence" cancockblock you - it looks like you’re just talking to friends.
Now, follow these steps :
- Justsit there. Do not scan. Concentrate on what you’ve brought toStarbucks, be it your book or your coffee, your celphone, whatever.
- Sitthere until 1 or 2 chicks sit down next to you (this should happen veryquickly in a crowded Starbucks). Leave them to chat for a minute ortwo.
- Then look over at them, like you notice something about them. ITDOESN’T MATTER IF THEY SEE YOU LOOK OR NOT. Don’t use theirnon-reaction as a reason to not approach. They will definitely noticeif you do it coolly and in a relaxed way.
- Then blank your mind, say"Excuse me," pause, then begin talking. When you jump out of a plane,your next action is to fall. Similarly, when you open like this, youwill find something to say.
To make it easier for yourself, have somegeneric openers. Here are some that many have found very effective :
- "Excuse me, are you guys talking about traveling? I really want to explore some more of Asia. Do you have some recommendations?"
- "Excuseme, are you studying English? I have a friend who is trying to learnEnglish, she is going to study in Canada soon. How did you learn?"
- "Excuse me, what are you drinking? Is that the new cinnamon drink? What’s it like?"
Aftera short while of talking, and after they get over the initial shock oftalking to someone they do not know (+ getting over that you’re agaijin), change the subject to something else. Follow the 90/10conversation rule (90% you, 10% them) for the first 10 minutes so theyrelax a bit and feel like opening up. Then you want to find some kindof common ground as quickly as possible, which you can transition intoa number close.
They tend to leave right after thenumber close,so stay seated. 5-15 minutes later, contestant #2 will turn up. It’slike doing Speed dating, except they don’t know they’re speed dating,and you don’t have to pay any money, and the chicks are normal. Plusyou can get real work done in the downtime. It’s fantastic.
Thisworks at any Starbucks. If you see a chick you really like, or if theStarbucks is very quiet, I suggest you find someone, and sit down nextto them. Look engrossed in what you’re doing for a while, then look upat them, and simply follow the steps above as normal.
I might post some Starbucks stories from start to finish if there is some interest.
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nice one man
this will so work
i am only 16 and i have already got at least 5 chicks at my local star bucks back in england that way !!!!
cant wait till i get to japan
also i wanted to ask
what is the ratio of good looking chicks like
what 1:10 (1 in 10 chicks)
or more ??
Ratio is way better than 1 in 10. Consider first that there are almost no fat chicks, their diets are better so have naturally better skin, hair, and clearer eyes, plus they tend to by meticulous about their appearance. The hot age range is also about twice as large. Example:
http://www.pornograph.jp/main.html
These are girls from off the street chosen for their hotness. These kinds of girls are pretty common in Japan.
I’d love to read any of your Starbucks stories if you have the time.
I go to the Starbucks in the Yokohama Mall that has an entrance at the main Yokohama subway stations… the one that ahs both KHK and JR lines, not the one in Sakuragicho.
After I get my drink I go upstairs, plug in my laptop and play one of my many uncensored Nihonjin porn files I got on my removable hard drive. I do not use headphones. I don’t play the volume very loud but you can still hear it. I usually can get two chicks riding my dick in less than 20 minutes.
“It’s like doing Speed dating, except they don’t know they’re speed dating”
That is some funny stuff man. McDonald’s is also a great place to go, but of course everybody knows that. I dont think you have to worry about weight though even if you are in Mickey Ds because we’re in japan. Anywhere else in the world would be a big “hell fuckin no.”
Hey Jack, I have 2 questions that are off topic..and thank you for answering all previous questions
1. I know this girl who is a model, who is a friend of my sisters. The first time we hung out..over 6 monthes ago, I was a total AFC. And I know she understood that. But since then, I:ve changed into a different human being. I am more socialble, funny, sexy, bigger, better posture, etc. Everytime she sees these changes in me, (we see each other every month when she is visiting my sister) I know she tries to test me to see if I am a man now, and the question she always asks is, `Do you have a girlfriend yet?` I get speechless because I can@t think of a good answer, and Im an AFC in her eyes again. What do you think is a good response to that question??
Another question, how do you react when girls come late to day 2s? This Shibuya queen was 45 minutes late, and I told her I owuld forgive her if she massaged me, did I handle that right? We had a great day 2, to set up a day 3 do I use the same strategy as you said in the previous post, I plan to go for the lay in the day 3..thanks in advance
yeah boy! i’m lovin’ that starbucks action. the girl i’m seeing now, i merely asked where starbucks was(in ginza) and she walked me there! she’s sweet, and she’s just my type stylish, straight out of a magazine.
amano, what’s your take on this… my rule of thumb i don’t do day 3s. meaning if i don’t lay on day 2 i blow it off.
what % percentage of your lays has been a day 3 or more?
i find that generally speaking if i do a day 2 lay, i’m in the driver’s seat as to where i want to take the ‘relationship’.
AJ:
Bagging the 18 yr old after a cockblock is classic. I have hit a cock block too from other japanese guys that saw me as a threat as well. My question is this:
Because I have been in situations were I KNOW the chicks are over 18, I have never had a probelm with girls being underage. In the Starbucks situation, how do you kow there are 18 or over?
Honestly they can be 17 and up for me cause a year difference isn’t gonna matter but I don’t want trouble later on and as you know, japanese girls’ age can be hard to determine.
Have you been in a situation when you realized she was underage? Did you just roll with it or escape?
Eleventeen,
Thanks! I’ll post some pretty soon.
Elvis DiCaprio,
That’s quite a technique. If it’s real explain how it happened exactly? I’ve used porn to get a girl before, but not in a public place.
Juice,
First Kitchen is my favorite of the fast food places. I guess this post is a formula for almost any kind of cafe or restaurant where you can linger for a while.
NampaNinja,
1) If you get action but have no girlfriend, just laugh and say “no.” Let it be obvious from your voice and attitude that getting a girlfriend is the least of your troubles — the hard part is to NOT let a girl force you into a relationship. If you don’t get action yet, then go get some. Then many good ways to respond to her Q should be obvious. In that situation I would say, “Hahaha, no,” as if it was a quaint thing to ask.
2) 45 min. is very late, but your response was good. Keep it light, show you don’t care. If she’s late next time it doesn’t matter much either, because the second time you have to go for the gold. You have to be balls to the wall, because if you don’t get her by the second time you probably won’t get her by the 10th time.
Basically I don’t answer chick lateness until she actually arrives. Then you could just say you were late, too. Or have her repay you immediately, which you did. The massage was a good choice. You can then turn it around and show her how to do it properly on her.
If chicks are always late for you, you might be doing something to make them think this is OK. I rarely have a chick show up really late, unless it was because she was so nervous to see me that she forgot something, spent too much time on makeup, etc. I usually show up 5-10 min late myself. DO keep a woman waiting (for a bit).
mitaboy,
Day3 (meaning second “date”) lays account for maybe 10% of my total, but if there was no kissing or significant attraction on the Day2 I don’t bother with the Day3 unless I’m super into the girl. I can generally pull Day3 lays off if there was making out in Day2.
The rule of thumb is if you don’t lay her by Day3 you won’t lay her by Day10. You could still get a lay on Day11, Day12, or some other ridiculously far out date, but it’s rarely worth the trouble.
I have a private English student who is pretty cute, nice body, really nice hair, and nice pussy, and every Monday after the lesson I always invite her over and try to get farther with her, getting a little farther and a little farther each time (last time I spent 2 hours eating her out but it hurt her too much to go in because it was right before her period). We’re on, like, Day 18 of mini-dates (1-2 hours each). Normally I would just ditch her, but she’s a paying student, and it’s fun to try to overcome her resistance each time. It’s a battle of my seduction skills against her resistance, and really pretty fun because she is extremely strong at the resistance. Unfortunately she kept stopping me before she could cum because she was afraid of getting her emotions into it. After that I go out and find more chicks with a nice state boost and high horniness.
Mitsu,
Of course I check her age early in the conversation if there’s any doubt. I’m very good at telling J-girls’ ages, but if she does happen to be too young, I just move on to a different girl.
Thanks for the tip as always, so setting up a day 3 should be the same as setting up a day 2 in your previous post?
Now getting chicks when teaching, from the classroom or the starbucks to the pad is a topc that I am very interested in. How did you set it up for the first time?
mitsu and amano,
do u really have to be careful about the age thing? i mean i thought the age of consent here was “13 to 17 depending on the ward/area” so u could feign ignorance or something.
or u could say the girl told u she was Xyrs old. (i have no exp. w/the high school group yet)
also, have any of u tried telekura?
my jap is fluent enough, just wondering if its worth it.
NampaNinja,
Fucking your private students is usually a piece of cake. They have every reason to want to go with you somewhere else (why would they turn down free conversation practice?). The newbie method is to just make a habit of going for lunch/dinner etc. after each lesson, and gradually getting more personal.
The fast track is to always be demonstrating personality in the lessons anyway so she’s already attracted to you. Then when you go out afterward you can treat it like a normal meet.
An even faster way would be to spend the lesson talking about how you slept funny and really need a massage. Since the lesson is a limited time thing where they are paying to be with you, they’re likely to tag along if you let them.
And yeah, treat setting up a Day3 the same as a Day2.
The ago of consent is 18 throughout Japan. In Tokyo and Chiba there is rumored to be some grey area, but you’d do better to consult a lawyer about that. In any case, be aware that ignorance is no defense in the eyes of the law (in Japan or anywhere). Best to keep it on the up and up so you can continue enjoying the lifestyle rather than doing time for one little misstep.
If you read Japanese, there is some info about laws concerning nampa and age here:
http://www.geocities.co.jp/HeartLand-Momiji/3936/siryo/law.html
You guys kind of scare me. Do you think the age of consent is really enforced in Japan? How can a country enforce a law against having sexual relations with minors when there’s a high possibility that the enforcers are doing just that? Face it, Japan is a country full of straight up pedophiles, or whatever lighter term you want to call them. Hopefully everyone here knows about enjo kousai. As long as you don’t fucking rape the bitch you aren’t going to do any “hard time” like you would in America for dipping down a few years, or 10, or 20, or 30, or whatever. Guys, you’re in Japan. Don’t be so fucking stupid.
what if a girl doesnt email you back from your patented trick? how would you email/call her and handle it like your the one in control? you guys have any of that problem, where the girl just starts ignoring you, do you think they are just tryin to play games?
½½»ÍºÐ¤Î¥ï¥¤¥Õ,
It’s not my place to be giving legal advice, so I have to err on the side of caution in my advice. At the extreme, I know a girl who lost her virginity at 14 to a 32-year-old guy who was with her for two years, but she thinks the reason he stayed with her for so long afterward was that he was freaked out about her telling someone in spite (guy and girl are both Japanese). Play at your own risk.
NampaNinja,
I don’t have a followup plan for if they don’t respond, because that rarely happens, and when it does happen nothing seems to work. I’ve heard of guys sending eight more emails (spaed out over days) that are fun and enjoyable, getting her used to them, and then suddenly stopping. Once she is used to them the theory is that she will feel a sense of loss when they stop coming. I have not field tested this personally, because obviously it would take quite a bit of time.
The ideal is to pickup and email them so well the first time that their response is virtually assured. Then, since there is an infinite supply of hote babes, just move on to the next one and get it right from the start.
amano, you said,
“last time I spent 2 hours eating her out” more guys should understand this “art”. i’m glad i’m not the only one that understands this.
one girl said to me, “i never felt this way before, i’m a little scared”. guys i can garauntee you’ll be just like duncan hines, “they’ll be comin’ back for more” if you’re good.
this is why i get lazy(or maybe satisfied), because that one girl will want to have sex 3 - 5 times a week just to have that feeling coursing through her body. which is just about all i have time for anyway and i’m more than willing to be the catalyst. when guys tell me that ain’t getting enough i’m just bustin’ up, if they only knew.
sidenote, stamina: three avocados a week and a spoonful of honey everyday.
3 avocados and honey? that can’t be true..
I am no slouch, but anything to give a bit extra stamina couldn’t be a bad thing!
Anybody else got any stamina tips??
This could an entire new topic by itself!
stamina
call it hocus pocus, but you’ll find that both provide vitamins and i quess minerals too. eat raw honey not the filtered stuff. here’s a site, there are others
http://www.askmen.com/love/love_tip_200/230_love_tip.html
yo wat is honey for?
last longer?
Mr. Amano,
Took your advice, working like clockwork.. She is in the “lay” territory now.
However, more questions: Had a day 2 today with a Korean and she’s accepted the fact that i’m now her ‘private english teacher’.. even though we cuddled and touched and played about, minutes later she found an excuse to leave but was still all over me. How do I get her in the “lay” area 100%?
Lexi
on the topic of honey(diet in general)
http://www.mensstuff.org/columns/sexhealth/archive.html#0801
I’m a recent arrival in Japan (6 months). What I don’t understand so far is that you hear about so many success stories on web sites like this, but I rarely see foreigners with what I would consider to be hot chicks. I meet plenty of people in bars, etc. who say pretty much the same things as people do here but they all tend to be wind bags. I wonder if the fantasy becomes a kind of reality within their own minds.
prophylactic
i would say to a large degree you are right.
i would have to struggle to count the times on one hand that i’ve seen a gaijin with a truly hot babe. many times the giajin dates(or just ‘fucks’ and i do mean fuck) the j-girl that the j-boy doesn’t want. the kind you probably wouldn’t take home to meet your mother
that’s why i don’t do the roppongi scene. many times i’m the first gaijin, and i try not to date the j-girl that only dates gaijin men.
mitaboy,
Yeah, this is sort of why I’m in the game from the beginning. If a guy doesn’t like to give women pleasure, what business does he have fucking tons of chicks? He’d just be putting them off sex for the rest of us. And if you really want a girl to come back, giving her the best sexual experience of her life is one of the surest ways to do that.
kurobuta,
My tip on stamina if you’re young and fit and SHOULD have stamina but don’t, is to get horny. Never engage in bad sex. Hang out with chicks who tease you and make you horny. If you ever find your mind wandering during sex or even during masturbation, just stop. Say you had to take a piss, go to the bathroom, then come back and do something else. Otherwise you’ll be building negative associations to sex, which will subvert your sex drive and kill your stamina. This in turn will eventually kill your game, because your subconscious will realize there’s no point to getting girls to be sexual with you since you can’t really enjoy it.
Hey,
My prime wing and i are in Tokyo until the 29th of march. When i mentioned this on the forums,¡¡some one linked me your site. If you want to meet up some time, let me know. We’re both pretty new to pick-up, but we’d love to go out.
ciao,
CT
Lexi,
I’m glad it worked for you.
About the Korean girl, it’s a classic case of her priorities versus yours. She wanted to get English lessons out of the deal, whereas you wanted something else. I wouldn’t have allowed her to confirm with me that I was her teacher. But given the situation now, you have a slightly harder case. You have access to her, but you also have the issue of her perhaps being afraid of losing the English learning priveleges she thinks she has.
You could always limit your time with her: like be really cool for one hour, maybe with you just talking most of the time and saying seductive stuff (don’t let her lead the “lesson”), then finish the lesson and tell you have to go do XXXX. Tell her she can tag along if she wants. Given the limited time she’ll probably want more English practice so she’s likely to come.
One easy thing, once you get out of the cafe or wherever, is to say you need water, go to a pharmacy very near your house and buy some big jugs of water. Once you are holding those jugs it’s just obvious you can’t just carry them around and will have to go home to drop them off. She’ll follow you, so at that time you can simply invite her in so she doesn’t have to wait outside. Once in your room you can probably figure out how to play things better.
Putting on music could help clear away the “English lesson” atmosphere further if there was any of that left. If she still insists on talking, tell her no more English talking unless she gives you a massage, then exchange and you can keep talking in her ear softly as you massage her. If you do it well she’ll gain a different perspective on priorities in the moment and you’ll be where you want to be.
It’s not that I don’t see foreigners with hot chicks. Most of the so-called “players” seem to be with very average girls that I wouldn’t boast about anywhere. These guys seem to have nothing else going for themselves accept to get laid. Amanojack, I know that’s your scene, but don’t you think your whole approach is like a throw back to the 1950s? It’s almost like ‘Happy Days’ revisited.
I’ve already met some foreigners here already who have cool, sexy girlfriends, but these guys seem to have something going on in their lives: careers, creative pursuits, objectives, etc. I couldn’t imagine their girlfriends falling for some corny technique from any old person who surfs the internet.
Prophylactic,
Very few gaijin have truly hot girls; this blog exists to remedy that condition. I myself endeavored to get super hot girls, and a good number of times I have done just that. They are generally not from clubs or bars, and not from Roppongi. They are from street pickup or sometimes from the Internet (not from the normal gaijin-friendly sites, though).
When I walk around with those girls on my arm I get scowls and dirty looks from guys, and girls will just look away fast, or the staff of restaurants and shops get very inquisitive about our relationship. I don’t take offence, but it IS interesting.
The reasons why gaijin don’t usually have hot girls are several:
1) There are tons of mediocre and moderate girls that are easy pickings for us. Often they come to us. If guys go to Roppongi they can often get something “decent” without much skill. All this free pussy cuts into guys’ motivation, since getting the next level up would be much harder, and without special effort against it, tons of free time is eaten up by this constant flow of mid to low-level girls.
2) Gaijin fresh off the boat often find nearly all the girls hot, or have never had an Asian girl, so –
at least for the first few times — anyone will do. And most gaijin stay here for only a short time, hence most gaijin you see on the streets have the not-hot girls.
3) Gaijin fashion standards are by-and-large far below Japanese ones, and expecially below that of the hotter girls (most of them are obsessive about appearance). The hotter girls tend to go for more fashionable guys.
4) Hot girls are more strongly bound to staying within the group, because that is a norm of Japanese society. In almost any society the beautiful girls are going to have fewer complaints about society than the less beautiful ones, so they have the least reason of anyone to try to go around those social structures. This is disadvantageous to gaijin, since access to that in-group is built up over a long time, and the most common gaijin pickup tactics often involve breaking society rules.
5) The least hot girls are the ones are least satisfied with Japanese society (being as beauty-oriented as it is), so they are the ones who are most motivated to learn English. ‘Nuff said.
Despite these reasons, it is very possible for gaijin to get the hottest girls. It takes dedication and self-discipline so as not to get caught up with all the lower-level girls. Many of these “lower-level” girls are average or above-average looking. Some of them are even quite cute and hot. They may have awesome personalities, be super sexual, and have other great characteristics that make them hard to leave alone. If you’re really going to go for the hottest girls, though, you’ll have to make a decision to leave off some really wonderful girls along the way, because there is never enough time to see them all.
My own policy is to aim high, sending the lower-level girls with great personalities on to my less pickup-oriented friends back home. If a girl is just “pretty hot” I will still see her when I have free time, especially if she is good in bed. Once a girl reaches the “HOT!!” level I am satisfied to see her for a good while, sacrificing hunting time to enjoy her thoroughly.
Other ways to get hotter girls, besides just getting better seduction skills and going out more often are just antidotes to the above reasons:
1) Have self-discipline and aim higher. Don’t be content with girls that only excite you “just enough.”
2) If you’re fresh off the boat, just go ahead and find your first girl, but after that try to have some standards
3) Improve your fashion. Basically don’t commit any fashion crimes and you’ll be a lot better off. Wear stuff that fits and is coordinated for a start. Browse magazines for examples of color combinations. Spend some dough on clothes. Get a girl to come shopping with you, but make sure that girl has the image of you that you want other girls to have of you (not: she likes you because she thinks you’re gay).
4) Get into inner circles by making connections or joining stuff. Choose activities that have hot girls AND get you well into the circle so there is no way you would be excluded (the gym is great for pickup, but it’s nto an inner-circle thing…Monday 7pm dance class at your gym is getting closer).
5) Learn J, or learn to communicate well with Japanese people some other way.
6) Keep reading my blog =) Seriously, there is no way to prove to anyone on the net that you actually get hot girls without posting pictures that would incriminate you, but my writing is meant to be self-evident. Most of it should resonate with you and your past experiences in such a way that there is no doubt it is the truth. It should clarify things for you and just bring you to those “Aha!” moments, so you don’t have to wonder — like you have to with most advice out there — whether I really know my stuff. If something is not clicking with you, just ask for more clarification.
mitaboy,
Avocado and honey? I don’t much like avocados…do you eat them with the honey?
amano
eat separately, but that is a thought hahaha.
i just peel and eat the avocados raw. you could use dressing though and maybe a boiled egg. in the states i would halve the avocado take out the seed, mash a boiled egg with some hot sauce and a little blue cheese dressing and scramble it in the avocado with the skin still on and scoop it out and eat it, not the skin of course.
tasty!!
Amanojack,
I don’t want to resort to “tricks” to meet someone. I was taken snowboarding last weekend in Nagano and met some cool, fun women who I could communicate with without having to surreptitiously manipulate into conversing with me. Regardless of language, I can pick up energy and be charming without becoming a cliche. In a way, there’s nothing more cliched than a gaijin pickup artist in Japan. That being said, there are a lot of interesting gaijins here who seem to do alright.
your #33 post…again.. hits home… I am very impressed by your insight. These things that you wrote about in #33 are things that I have often thought about.. but could never put into words! Excellent!
You wrote reason #1. being caught up in mediocre girls.. this is so true! I found myself wasting time with mediocre girls.. and was getting to lazy to put any real effort into getting hot girls..
I don’t hardly go to Roppongi anymore.. and i have been trying to get the next-level up girls.. but it is difficult.. a whole different train of thought and effort..
thanks for sharing your insight.. i’m off to the store to buy some advocados!
Prophylactic,
You keep mentioning “tricks” - what material are you referring to?
Getting into conversations the way you normally would is fine. Any techniques I give are for those areas where you DO have trouble, but if you are already satisfied with your performance in all areas, you should of course stick with what you’re doing.
I’d like everyone to notice that these techniques are not designed to trick the girl; they are designed to get something to happen that you both want. The reason a “trick” or special technique can be useful is that there is unnatural social conditioning in place that needs workarounds.
Similarly, you could say that not showing your attraction to a girl right away is a trick, but this is in fact normal behavior. You might say that this example doesn’t count, because it is what is expected of you. To that I would say, finding excuses that free the girl from a sense of accountability is also expected of you. The rail-pass trick, probably the cheesiest-sounding technique I’ve ever given, is a perfect example of this. In that case, much more important than the actual technique is the principle it illustrates. It’s not about hiding something - I believe it was my unclear writing that gave that impression. The girl knows full well what is going on. Girls who are attracted to you and wanna have sex with you appreciate when you can create a situation where it’s easier to move forward, simple as that.
I couldn’t actually finish a couple of comments that I wanted to post here, since I am helluva busy recently, but this is a classy post and very good comments.
As for the cockblocker, this is called “dog of a gardener” in one of the east European countries - someone who will not profit of the situation, but will spoil the fun for others.
I definitely would like to hear more of your stories from the very beginning to the very end. Sometimes there are simple thinkgs mentioned there that make me go “shoot, so that’s where I went wrong!”.
Yup, it’s all a bit slippery and slidy but so is the nature of the gaijin life in Japan. Defining “hot” is subjective at the best of time, but it is true that the majority of gaijin don’t even register. Amano, whether you like it or not, you’re probably in the bell curve. However, in the effort stakes, you cannot be denied.
The guys that can really pull don’t even know it or are only here for brief periods of time. Their window of opportunity is much smaller.
Anyway, I highly recommend visiting blow bars and the like. If you work long hours, and don’t have the time to hunt, paying for sex is a good option. What’s more, you’re giving the local economy a boost and not behaving like a sex pest.
“Seriously, there is no way to prove to anyone on the net that you actually get hot girls without posting pictures that would incriminate you,”
Haha, word! It looks like someone is taking lessons from my past missteps…
Another great opportunity for meeting chicks is at your work place. Of the 50-odd in my company, there’s only two I would consider doing but it’s probably better for some of you people. i recently applied for a job with a brand consultancy in Tokyo but no dice. Disappointing as I know that the job brings you into contact with babes. The PR and advertising industries also hold their weight for lusciousness. Fark me, get me away from the client side!!
hey
i wanted to ask all you guys on amanojacks blog one simple question
PICKUP IS A HOBBY AGREED IT IS BUT WHY ARE USERS SO AFTER 18 YEAR OLD VIRGINS NOT TO GET WITH THEM BUT JUST TO DO EM AND LEAVE EM…IN THE SENSE JUST TO MAKE EM LOSE THEIR VIRGINITY
so my question
do you guys here personally go after girls to get settled with them or to go out with them for like fun OR do you go out with them/get them just to have sex and then leave them ???
Taro - I think Amanojack has made it pretty clear in the past that advice is plan-netural, aka whatever you want with with your future life for the girls, follow his advice and it will lead to success.
I personally come here because yes like amano says, you can easy find good-looking girls, but there is a very very disticint looking type and personality, I want to spend puppy-love time with and all of my advances on this type(even just looking for bloody romance) have lead to failures, so need to refine my skills,
Starbucks field report. Yesterday was my first day back in Japan, and the first time to try out tips from this blog where it counts. Got off work early yesterday, so I took the JR line to Hinadecho station then headed to the Starbucks. I wore a collared shirt and slacks (no style what so ever).
Ordered a coffee, took off my jacket (lost 20 pounds on deployment, so I show off some muscles if that helps) and sat down in front of a nice looking lady (mistake was using the comfy chair as I had to face her later).
Now my schtik: I took out the Kanji flash cards (I’m studying Heisig’s) and look at them for 3-4 minutes making sure anyone that looks can see the Kanji side. Then I just leaned over to the lady reading a newspaper and ask if tomorrow is Hanami (flower viewing) in Yokohama. Bam, instant 20 minute conversation including her having fun going through the Kanji cards drilling me. Sadly I was seated across from her so getting physical contact was difficult. In addition, I did not have a prepared story. Tried to get her to goto Karaoke but no dice. Most I got was an e-mail address exchange. So now it’s about the follow-up and going for real on the next date (if it happens).
Personally, I find studying Kanji too easy to get girls interested in a conversation. In addition, it’s instant social acceptance since you’re serious about Japan. My mistake has been doing it in bars. Man, Starbucks should have been the obvious choice. Plus, I actually am studying Japanese, so it’s win win.
Thanks, Nuke Marine.
Dunno for others and Amanojack, but I appreciate sharing your story here. It’s a nice tip.
BTW, since there are more and more people reading this blog, let’s make a rule :
- if there are more than two gai-jins with Kanji cards in one Starbucks, it sort of loses appeal, so the first one stays, the second one goes away… (>_
I can confirm nukemarine’s story. i was in that monster starbucks in shinjuku (most profitable floor space in the world, so ive heard) just killing time inbetween dates (lunch and dinner). i had my japanese text with me (my intention was purely to study)and had a series of girls start conversations with me (3 pairs within an hour). cause i was about to meet someone else i didnt really try anything but it is definitely a great way to make yourself approachable. in hindsight, i should have hit them all up for numbers but i was stressing about things getting awkward when my date turned up.
its all too easy to just ask, “hey, whats this in english?” and then your away… and this applies to other places too, on the train etc.
on diet, i second the avocado advice and recommend soymilk. if you are fucking a lot you want some way to replenish all that protein!
advice for this one?
after meeting a pair of girls (and they are almost always in pairs) and ive mailed the hot one, i have a feeling they dont reply cause i ve got both emails but have only contacted one - thus my motives are too obvious for them. usually, something along the lines of: had fun…lets meet again…
anybody had or perceived this problem and any ways around it?
this has happened in the past a few times and my attitude has been, shoganai, thats their loss and set my sights on the next find. perhaps, they wouldnt respond anyway, but i have a feeling this dynamic of less good looking friend getting left out is putting a spanner in the works.
would it help to contact the dud as well?
i know you have already written heaps on the follow up email and i think i have been doing more or less as you prescribe but my successes and failures with email seem kind of random, except that i have noted less success with those girls i have met in pairs.
words of wisdom onegaishimasu!
Starbucks Pimps. What is the general consensus, do black guys have jest as good a chance with these methods, or are all these methods catered towards Japanese girls wanting Caucasian looking men?
blsasuke,
Since most of these methods are just ways to get into conversation, ways to control logistics, and universal principles of attraction applied to common situations in Japan, I can’t see many of them having a racial preference. Best way would be to field test them and find out. Then post back here if they didn’t work for you.
Davo,
Just ask the email address of the girl you’re after. It’s basically a must to get the other girl on your side, and in that case it wouldn’t make much sense for you to ask both their addresses.
Another part of this goes back to something I’ve been talking about a lot recently: being excited about your target.
In short, choose one girl, get excited about her, and let it spread to her AND her friends, so they are all excited about you getting together.
hello gaijin boys. go to starbucks and sit down. i will come to you and gyaku-nampa (reverse pick you). no need to plan the game. sex will come later. just relax. not thinking to much. i will see you when at starbucks and take you with me. ok? white or black, all gaijin is good for me.